no matter what one's stance on the issue is this right?

[Right Wing]

Lets review the Democratic party peace lovers. Obama's pal Bill Ayers is a meber of the Weatherman who BOMBED the Pentagon and espoused violence. LIBERALS burned down ROTC buildings during the VietNam war. Who rioted outside the 1968 Democratic party convention? How many CONSERVATIVES burned down Watts? Lets talk about those peace loving memberes of ELF who burn down buildings and car dealerships. How about lawbaiding New Black Panthers who stood outside voting precincts with clubs or those DEMS who bussed in protesters to the neighborhoods of AIG employees. And lets talk about those SEIU members who beat up a conservative selling buttons at a rally last fall in St. Louis. Or how about the effigy of Palin that was hung during the election or the movie on how to assassinate Bush? Need I go on hypocrite, Oh yeah...how about Bart Stupak complaining about all the threats he and his wife rec'd BEFORE he voted in favor of the healthcare bill...yeah those were Repubs and Tea Party members BS at him because at that time he was AGAINST the bill.

[Loco]

 

[steve doocy]

that's true they should distance themselves from it.

i agree

 

[steve doocy]

Lets review the Democratic party peace lovers. Obama's pal Bill Ayers is a meber of the Weatherman who BOMBED the Pentagon and espoused violence. LIBERALS burned down ROTC buildings during the VietNam war. Who rioted outside the 1968 Democratic party convention? How many CONSERVATIVES burned down Watts? Lets talk about those peace loving memberes of ELF who burn down buildings and car dealerships. How about lawbaiding New Black Panthers who stood outside voting precincts with clubs or those DEMS who bussed in protesters to the neighborhoods of AIG employees. And lets talk about those SEIU members who beat up a conservative selling buttons at a rally last fall in St. Louis. Or how about the effigy of Palin that was hung during the election or the movie on how to assassinate Bush? Need I go on hypocrite, Oh yeah...how about Bart Stupak complaining about all the threats he and his wife rec'd BEFORE he voted in favor of the healthcare bill...yeah those were Repubs and Tea Party members BS at him because at that time he was AGAINST the bill.

The 1960's? That's the best you can do?

 

[TheTruthIs]

Lets review the Democratic party peace lovers. Obama's pal Bill Ayers is a meber of the Weatherman who BOMBED the Pentagon and espoused violence. LIBERALS burned down ROTC buildings during the VietNam war. Who rioted outside the 1968 Democratic party convention? How many CONSERVATIVES burned down Watts? Lets talk about those peace loving memberes of ELF who burn down buildings and car dealerships. How about lawbaiding New Black Panthers who stood outside voting precincts with clubs or those DEMS who bussed in protesters to the neighborhoods of AIG employees. And lets talk about those SEIU members who beat up a conservative selling buttons at a rally last fall in St. Louis. Or how about the effigy of Palin that was hung during the election or the movie on how to assassinate Bush? Need I go on hypocrite, Oh yeah...how about Bart Stupak complaining about all the threats he and his wife rec'd BEFORE he voted in favor of the healthcare bill...yeah those were Repubs and Tea Party members BS at him because at that time he was AGAINST the bill.

Valid points.

 

[steve doocy]

Lets review the Democratic party peace lovers. Obama's pal Bill Ayers is a meber of the Weatherman who BOMBED the Pentagon and espoused violence. LIBERALS burned down ROTC buildings during the VietNam war. Who rioted outside the 1968 Democratic party convention? How many CONSERVATIVES burned down Watts? Lets talk about those peace loving memberes of ELF who burn down buildings and car dealerships. How about lawbaiding New Black Panthers who stood outside voting precincts with clubs or those DEMS who bussed in protesters to the neighborhoods of AIG employees. And lets talk about those SEIU members who beat up a conservative selling buttons at a rally last fall in St. Louis. Or how about the effigy of Palin that was hung during the election or the movie on how to assassinate Bush? Need I go on hypocrite, Oh yeah...how about Bart Stupak complaining about all the threats he and his wife rec'd BEFORE he voted in favor of the healthcare bill...yeah those were Repubs and Tea Party members BS at him because at that time he was AGAINST the bill.

let's move up thirty years or so

The Oklahoma City bombing occurred on April 19, 1995 when American militia movement sympathizer Timothy McVeigh, with the assistance of Terry Nichols, destroyed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in downtown Oklahoma City.[1] It was the most significant act of terrorism on American soil until the September 11 attacks in 2001, claiming the lives of 168 victims and injuring more than 680.[2][3] The blast destroyed or damaged 324 buildings within a sixteen?block radius,[4] destroyed or burned 86 cars, and shattered glass in 258 nearby buildings.[5] The bomb was estimated to have caused at least $652 million worth of damage.[6]

Motivated by the federal government's handling of the Waco Siege (1993) and the Ruby Ridge incident (1992), McVeigh's attack was timed to coincide with the second anniversary of the Waco Siege.[7][8] Within 90 minutes of the explosion McVeigh was stopped by Oklahoma State Trooper Charlie Hanger for driving without a license plate, and arrested for unlawfully carrying a weapon.[9] Forensic evidence quickly linked McVeigh and Nichols to the attack, and within days they were arrested and charged; Michael and Lori Fortier were later identified as accomplices. Extensive rescue efforts were undertaken by local, state, federal, and worldwide agencies in the wake of the bombing, and substantial donations were received from across the country. The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) activated eleven of its Urban Search and Rescue Task Forces, consisting of 665 rescue workers who assisted in rescue and recovery operations.[10][11]

The official investigation, known as "OKBOMB," was the largest criminal investigation case in American history; FBI agents conducted 28,000 interviews, amassing 3.5 short tons (3.2 t) of evidence, and collecting nearly one billion pieces of information.[12][13][14] The bombers were tried and convicted in 1997. McVeigh was executed by lethal injection on June 11, 2001, and Nichols was sentenced to life in prison. Michael and Lori Fortier testified against McVeigh and Nichols; Michael was sentenced to twelve years in prison for failing to warn the U.S. government, and Lori received immunity from prosecution in exchange for her testimony. As with other large-scale terrorist attacks, conspiracy theories dispute the official claims and allege the involvement of additional perpetrators.

As a result of the bombing, the U.S. government passed legislation designed to prevent future terrorist attacks by increasing the protection around federal buildings. From 1995 to 2005, over 60 domestic terrorism plots were foiled due to preventive measures taken in response to the bombing.[15][16] On April 19, 2000, the Oklahoma City National Memorial was dedicated on the site of the Murrah Federal Building, commemorating the victims of the bombing. Annual remembrance services are held at the time of the explosion.

The 1960's? That's the best you can do?

The worst act of domestic terrorism was committed by folks from which side of the political spectrum? let's leave politics out of it...

But hey, that's only my opinion.

 

[TheTruthIs]

Are you assuming what political party people are a part of?


Power to the People!

 

[grape ape]

hey, steve apparently there's someone still not doing research here. it ain't you that's the truth to be told here. look:

"McVeigh's only known political affiliations were his voter registration with the Republican Party of New York when he lived in Buffalo, New York, and a membership in the National Rifle Association while in the military.[78] McVeigh self-identified as a libertarian in a statement that was reported by MSNBC.com and The Washington Post;[79] and while in federal prison, he voted for Libertarian candidate Harry Browne in the 1996 United States presidential election.[80]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh#Political_and_religious_views

here's something that gets back to the issue:

"How Racism Affects Everyone
Alvin Poussaint Delivers Keynote Address

By LUCY D. SUDDRETH

"One of the most critical issues facing the world today is racism and its equivalents," Alvin Poussaint told a standing room only crowd in the Mumford Room on Feb. 2.

The keynote address kicked off the Library's African American History Month celebration.

Dr. Poussaint, a well-known author, psychiatrist and educator represented the national theme for the month "Afro-American Scholars: Leaders, Activists and Writers," commemorating the legacy of Mary McLeod Bethune, James Weldon Johnson, W.E.B. DuBois and others.

In opening remarks, Denise Banks, director of Affirmative Action and Special Programs, expressed her appreciation of the "Library's commitment to educating and raising the awareness of the myriad of contributions made by individuals of diverse backgrounds."

Before he introduced the keynote speaker, Dr. Billington said he felt the occasion was appropriate for announcing a major new undertaking. The Library is planning a major exhibit that will celebrate cultural and intellectual achievements of African- Americans. It will bring attention to LC's extraordinary, highly varied and unique collections such as those of Daniel A.P. Murray, who founded Black History Week, Thurgood Marshall, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and Tuskegee Institute to highlight creative expressions and social, institutional and legal history.

Dr. Billington announced that once formalized, "the exhibit will encompass all three buildings of the Library. Through American Memory and possibly traveling exhibits, the city and country will have an outreach capacity to the items."

In his introduction, Dr. Billington described Dr. Poussaint, "as an individual who has done much to inspire human dignity and change the quality of life."

To the amusement of the audience, Dr. Poussaint began by revealing that "PrimeTime Live" news commentator Renee Poussaint "is not his estranged wife but his niece."

Speaking of the recently played SuperBowl, Dr. Poussaint said, "One of the moving aspects of that day was not the game nor superstar Michael Jackson, but the ethnic appeal from the children to 'Heal the World.'

"Racism can destroy us as individuals and ultimately destroy the world," he continued. "One of the reasons why it has historically been so lethal and devastating is that when played out unharnessed, the bottom line, is genocide. Once you know that racism leads to genocide, and frequently that is one of its missions, then you can spread out and kind of tabulate the other manifestations on a different level of the genocidal doctrine. Racism plays itself out institutionally in the way we deal with people."

Dr. Poussaint reminded the audience of how racism was played out in America through segregation. For example, blacks that visited health care facilities were not given the same quality of care as whites. Some black patients were allowed to die, children were neglected, and women often had their babies in trucks on the side of the road. The institutions reflected the different value base placed on an individual's life.

Even today, Dr. Poussaint said, "You can easily form a hierarchy of whose lives in America, according to race, are worth more than another.

"The primary focus of the civil rights struggle," he continued, "has been to make a black life count as much as a white life -- still a difficult point to move toward in this country. When a relative value is placed on a life, it sends a message to persons doing the oppressing, as well as to the persons being victimized. In turn, the victim learns to devalue their own life. This can often work itself out in a lot of destructive kinds of ways."

These devaluations have been inflicted upon others through cultural expressions. Dr. Poussaint gave the example, "The only good Indian is a dead Indian," to describe what he meant by "genocidal doctrine."

"I still get nervous when I hear kids saying "eeny meeny, miney mo ...," he said. "We need to be sensitive to this type of language.

Definitions of race can also have an insidious message. "The definition of a black person meant an individual with any known black ancestry. One drop would do it to you -- denoting the potency of black blood. It isn't based on anything biological. There is a psycho-political message there. It is a way of promoting white purity and stigmatizing blackness as something bad, inferior and polluted that should be relegated, be oppressed, suppressed and enslaved."

Dr. Poussaint told the audience to be mindful of the psychological effects of racism. To be black in America is "to be suspect," he said. "Being a minority has a whole psychological impact. There becomes a burden of proof on blacks to show that they are OK; a burden of proof to show that they are competent."

Dr. Poussaint concluded by acknowledging that "none of us are pure and free of everything. We all have the capability of being racist.

'The benefit of being sensitive to multiculturalism is an ability to put yourself in another person's shoes. When an effort is made to understand other cultures, then we can better understand ourselves.' "

http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/93/9304/racism.html

 

[truthBtold]

 

[grape ape]

yeah, yeah that's immature and everything, but do you have any adult contributions? for one who is the person in the pic and what makes them the person who made their t-shirt more credible than wiki?

but fine. perhaps "duh i dunno what tooo say duuhh sos i put pictures and dduuuuhh they won't know dduuuhh i dunno" are all you can muster to that but not good enough.

so let's try adding this:

"his only known affiliations are as a registered Republican in his New York days..."

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/03/29/profile.mcveigh/

now back to the subject (lol):

"How Racism Affects Everyone
Alvin Poussaint Delivers Keynote Address

By LUCY D. SUDDRETH

"One of the most critical issues facing the world today is racism and its equivalents," Alvin Poussaint told a standing room only crowd in the Mumford Room on Feb. 2.

The keynote address kicked off the Library's African American History Month celebration.

Dr. Poussaint, a well-known author, psychiatrist and educator represented the national theme for the month "Afro-American Scholars: Leaders, Activists and Writers," commemorating the legacy of Mary McLeod Bethune, James Weldon Johnson, W.E.B. DuBois and others.

In opening remarks, Denise Banks, director of Affirmative Action and Special Programs, expressed her appreciation of the "Library's commitment to educating and raising the awareness of the myriad of contributions made by individuals of diverse backgrounds."

Before he introduced the keynote speaker, Dr. Billington said he felt the occasion was appropriate for announcing a major new undertaking. The Library is planning a major exhibit that will celebrate cultural and intellectual achievements of African- Americans. It will bring attention to LC's extraordinary, highly varied and unique collections such as those of Daniel A.P. Murray, who founded Black History Week, Thurgood Marshall, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and Tuskegee Institute to highlight creative expressions and social, institutional and legal history.

Dr. Billington announced that once formalized, "the exhibit will encompass all three buildings of the Library. Through American Memory and possibly traveling exhibits, the city and country will have an outreach capacity to the items."

In his introduction, Dr. Billington described Dr. Poussaint, "as an individual who has done much to inspire human dignity and change the quality of life."

To the amusement of the audience, Dr. Poussaint began by revealing that "PrimeTime Live" news commentator Renee Poussaint "is not his estranged wife but his niece."

Speaking of the recently played SuperBowl, Dr. Poussaint said, "One of the moving aspects of that day was not the game nor superstar Michael Jackson, but the ethnic appeal from the children to 'Heal the World.'

"Racism can destroy us as individuals and ultimately destroy the world," he continued. "One of the reasons why it has historically been so lethal and devastating is that when played out unharnessed, the bottom line, is genocide. Once you know that racism leads to genocide, and frequently that is one of its missions, then you can spread out and kind of tabulate the other manifestations on a different level of the genocidal doctrine. Racism plays itself out institutionally in the way we deal with people."

Dr. Poussaint reminded the audience of how racism was played out in America through segregation. For example, blacks that visited health care facilities were not given the same quality of care as whites. Some black patients were allowed to die, children were neglected, and women often had their babies in trucks on the side of the road. The institutions reflected the different value base placed on an individual's life.

Even today, Dr. Poussaint said, "You can easily form a hierarchy of whose lives in America, according to race, are worth more than another.

"The primary focus of the civil rights struggle," he continued, "has been to make a black life count as much as a white life -- still a difficult point to move toward in this country. When a relative value is placed on a life, it sends a message to persons doing the oppressing, as well as to the persons being victimized. In turn, the victim learns to devalue their own life. This can often work itself out in a lot of destructive kinds of ways."

These devaluations have been inflicted upon others through cultural expressions. Dr. Poussaint gave the example, "The only good Indian is a dead Indian," to describe what he meant by "genocidal doctrine."

"I still get nervous when I hear kids saying "eeny meeny, miney mo ...," he said. "We need to be sensitive to this type of language.

Definitions of race can also have an insidious message. "The definition of a black person meant an individual with any known black ancestry. One drop would do it to you -- denoting the potency of black blood. It isn't based on anything biological. There is a psycho-political message there. It is a way of promoting white purity and stigmatizing blackness as something bad, inferior and polluted that should be relegated, be oppressed, suppressed and enslaved."

Dr. Poussaint told the audience to be mindful of the psychological effects of racism. To be black in America is "to be suspect," he said. "Being a minority has a whole psychological impact. There becomes a burden of proof on blacks to show that they are OK; a burden of proof to show that they are competent."

Dr. Poussaint concluded by acknowledging that "none of us are pure and free of everything. We all have the capability of being racist.

'The benefit of being sensitive to multiculturalism is an ability to put yourself in another person's shoes. When an effort is made to understand other cultures, then we can better understand ourselves.' "

http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/93/9304/racism.html

anything not 3 yr old pops into that head of yours let us know

thanks guy

 

[TheTruthIs]

 

[grape ape]

yeah, yeah that's immature and everything, but do you have any adult contributions? for one who is the person in the pic and what makes them more credible than wiki?

but fine.

let's try adding this:

"his only known affiliations are as a registered Republican in his New York days..."

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/03/29/profile.mcveigh/


thanks guy

 

[grape ape]

"McVeigh's only known political affiliations were his voter registration with the Republican Party of New York when he lived in Buffalo, New York"

http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/death/US/mcveigh717.htm

now back to the subject (lol):

"How Racism Affects Everyone
Alvin Poussaint Delivers Keynote Address

By LUCY D. SUDDRETH

"One of the most critical issues facing the world today is racism and its equivalents," Alvin Poussaint told a standing room only crowd in the Mumford Room on Feb. 2.

The keynote address kicked off the Library's African American History Month celebration.

Dr. Poussaint, a well-known author, psychiatrist and educator represented the national theme for the month "Afro-American Scholars: Leaders, Activists and Writers," commemorating the legacy of Mary McLeod Bethune, James Weldon Johnson, W.E.B. DuBois and others.

In opening remarks, Denise Banks, director of Affirmative Action and Special Programs, expressed her appreciation of the "Library's commitment to educating and raising the awareness of the myriad of contributions made by individuals of diverse backgrounds."

Before he introduced the keynote speaker, Dr. Billington said he felt the occasion was appropriate for announcing a major new undertaking. The Library is planning a major exhibit that will celebrate cultural and intellectual achievements of African- Americans. It will bring attention to LC's extraordinary, highly varied and unique collections such as those of Daniel A.P. Murray, who founded Black History Week, Thurgood Marshall, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and Tuskegee Institute to highlight creative expressions and social, institutional and legal history.

Dr. Billington announced that once formalized, "the exhibit will encompass all three buildings of the Library. Through American Memory and possibly traveling exhibits, the city and country will have an outreach capacity to the items."

In his introduction, Dr. Billington described Dr. Poussaint, "as an individual who has done much to inspire human dignity and change the quality of life."

To the amusement of the audience, Dr. Poussaint began by revealing that "PrimeTime Live" news commentator Renee Poussaint "is not his estranged wife but his niece."

Speaking of the recently played SuperBowl, Dr. Poussaint said, "One of the moving aspects of that day was not the game nor superstar Michael Jackson, but the ethnic appeal from the children to 'Heal the World.'

"Racism can destroy us as individuals and ultimately destroy the world," he continued. "One of the reasons why it has historically been so lethal and devastating is that when played out unharnessed, the bottom line, is genocide. Once you know that racism leads to genocide, and frequently that is one of its missions, then you can spread out and kind of tabulate the other manifestations on a different level of the genocidal doctrine. Racism plays itself out institutionally in the way we deal with people."

Dr. Poussaint reminded the audience of how racism was played out in America through segregation. For example, blacks that visited health care facilities were not given the same quality of care as whites. Some black patients were allowed to die, children were neglected, and women often had their babies in trucks on the side of the road. The institutions reflected the different value base placed on an individual's life.

Even today, Dr. Poussaint said, "You can easily form a hierarchy of whose lives in America, according to race, are worth more than another.

"The primary focus of the civil rights struggle," he continued, "has been to make a black life count as much as a white life -- still a difficult point to move toward in this country. When a relative value is placed on a life, it sends a message to persons doing the oppressing, as well as to the persons being victimized. In turn, the victim learns to devalue their own life. This can often work itself out in a lot of destructive kinds of ways."

These devaluations have been inflicted upon others through cultural expressions. Dr. Poussaint gave the example, "The only good Indian is a dead Indian," to describe what he meant by "genocidal doctrine."

"I still get nervous when I hear kids saying "eeny meeny, miney mo ...," he said. "We need to be sensitive to this type of language.

Definitions of race can also have an insidious message. "The definition of a black person meant an individual with any known black ancestry. One drop would do it to you -- denoting the potency of black blood. It isn't based on anything biological. There is a psycho-political message there. It is a way of promoting white purity and stigmatizing blackness as something bad, inferior and polluted that should be relegated, be oppressed, suppressed and enslaved."

Dr. Poussaint told the audience to be mindful of the psychological effects of racism. To be black in America is "to be suspect," he said. "Being a minority has a whole psychological impact. There becomes a burden of proof on blacks to show that they are OK; a burden of proof to show that they are competent."

Dr. Poussaint concluded by acknowledging that "none of us are pure and free of everything. We all have the capability of being racist.

'The benefit of being sensitive to multiculturalism is an ability to put yourself in another person's shoes. When an effort is made to understand other cultures, then we can better understand ourselves.' "

http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/93/9304/racism.html

anything not 3 yr old pops into that head of yours let us know

thanks guy

 

[Right Wing]

The 1960's? That's the best you can do?

Bart Stupak was in Congress during the 1960s? Do you have a reading comprehension issue?

 

[Right Wing]

Like I said racism is alive and well and it's good news for grape.

Hispanics have the highest teen birth rate.
Hispanics have a low academic achievement rate.
Hispanics are incarcerated at a rate twice that of whites


and it's all due to racism

thanks bitch

 

[grape ape]

thanks for signing off as bitch. guess we know what to call you now.

thank you very much.

 

[grape ape]

Lets review the Democratic party peace lovers. Obama's pal Bill Ayers is a meber of the Weatherman who BOMBED the Pentagon and espoused violence. LIBERALS burned down ROTC buildings during the VietNam war. Who rioted outside the 1968 Democratic party convention? How many CONSERVATIVES burned down Watts? Lets talk about those peace loving memberes of ELF who burn down buildings and car dealerships. How about lawbaiding New Black Panthers who stood outside voting precincts with clubs or those DEMS who bussed in protesters to the neighborhoods of AIG employees. And lets talk about those SEIU members who beat up a conservative selling buttons at a rally last fall in St. Louis. Or how about the effigy of Palin that was hung during the election or the movie on how to assassinate Bush? Need I go on hypocrite, Oh yeah...how about Bart Stupak complaining about all the threats he and his wife rec'd BEFORE he voted in favor of the healthcare bill...yeah those were Repubs and Tea Party members BS at him because at that time he was AGAINST the bill.

steve doocy's right. show me where in your comment bart stupak's being threatened has anything to do with those threats? are you actually attempting to excuse it? because if you want to start listing things oklahoma city alone does it kid. sorry.

glad i'm an independent.

thanks guy

 

[grape ape]

oh and read your history. i'm not excusing any wrongs they may have done, but black panthers were there making sure nobody messed with black people trying to vote. not to stop anyone from voting. same with brown berets. read your history, son.

 

[grape ape]

now what does race have to do with health care reform?

 

[Right Wing]

It certainly is hard to debate with people who make things up at will, state they are iron clad facts, and call factual data biased.

 

[TheTruthIs]

Here, you are gonna need this R W...