ICE attack...wtf...

[Back to the 90s]

^ you haven't refuted anything i said either.

i quoted britannica encyclopedia about english criminals being deported to America.

where's your source? Oh yeah, you got none. Dumb ass. LOL

 

[Australia]

^ you haven't refuted anything i said either.

i quoted britannica encyclopedia about english criminals being deported to America.

where's your source? Oh yeah, you got none. Dumb ass. LOL

http://history.enotes.com/history-fact-finder/economics-business/what-were-indentured-servants

I didn't think you needed a source for something as easily attainable as the description of indentured service. Would you like a source that states the sky is "blue", as well?

 

[Back to the 90s]

^ that doesn't change the fact that England deported their criminals to the US way back when.

Here is another excerpt about british criminals being deported to the United States.

<H1>BRITISH CONVICTS SHIPPED TO AMERICAN COLONIES

In 1769 Dr. Johnson, speaking of Americans, said to a friend, “Sir, they are a race of convicts and ought to be content with anything we may allow them short of hanging.” In the latest edition of Boswell, who chronicled this saying, it is explained by the following footnote: “Convicts were sent to nine of the American settlements. According to one estimate, about 2000 had been sent for many years annually. Dr. Lang, after comparing various estimates, concludes that the number sent might be about 50,000 altogether.”1 Again, in the Encyclopædia Britannica, under the article “Botany Bay,” we read: “On the revolt of the New England colonies, the convict establishments in America were no longer available, and so the attention of the British government was turned to Botany Bay, and in 1787 a penal settlement was formed there.” In keeping with these statements is a conversation related in the autobiography of Dr. Francis Lieber (p. 180). The scene was a breakfast in 1844 at Dr. Ferguson’s in London. “I remarked how curious a fact it was that all American women look so genteel and refined, even the lowest; small heads, fine silky hair, delicate and marked eyebrows. The Doctor answered, ‘Oh, that is easily accounted for. The super-abundance of public women, who are always rather good-looking, were sent over to America in early times.’”
These English views of the United States in the colonial period as penal settlements and convict establishments move incredulity and indignation in Americans, with whom Plymouth stands for a colony of conscience, Massachusetts for an asylum of martyrs, and Virginia for the old dominion of high-bred cavaliers. But a student who would nothing extenuate nor set down aught in malice — falsa dicere, nec vera reticere — is bound to ascertain how far a convict element really pervaded our early plantations.
In this research he will find little help from our standard histories. Bancroft, in 1887, conversing with the present writer, freely admitted that, when speaking of felons among our settlers, he had been very economical in dispensing the truths he had

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[truthBtold]

^^^isn't that like asking a KKK member for his opinions on black folk? lol.

 

[Australia]

In 1776, the American colonies had well over 2 million inhabitants (close to 2.5 million).

http://www.answers.com/topic/demographic-history-of-the-united-states

To say that 50,000 convicts makes the US a nation of convicts is absurd. That's roughly 2% of the population.

 

[Back to the 90s]

hmm... well 30%-40% of that 2 million were black slaves. so for the rest, white criminals were a pretty high percentage of the white population.

also go into any forum or any counterstrike/internet type of game. you will find the descedents of those criminals whites everywhere making weird noises and acting like possessed imbeciles. yes, they are everywhere.

 

[Australia]

hmm... well 30%-40% of that 2 million were black slaves. so for the rest, white criminals were a pretty high percentage of the white population.

also go into any forum or any counterstrike/internet type of game. you will find the descedents of those criminals whites everywhere making weird noises and acting like possessed imbeciles. yes, they are everywhere.

30-40%? Now you're just making things up. The slave population was at most 20%, before the Revolution. By the time of the Civil war, the slave population was just over 10%.

You've been soaking up that anti-American propaganda pretty well. The US is far from perfect, but you're just exaggerating because you have an agenda. I'll gladly put the US in it's place on any issue, but let's set the intellectual dishonesty aside. It does no one any good.

 

[Back to the 90s]

^ you should see some of these yahoo message boards and internet gaming sites.

there are weird white guys everywhere. you would be blind if you don't see them.

being anti weird white guy is being Pro American. Please change your values to reflect this. thanks.

but honestly, i am sure if you traveled to europe, then you can see why they view america as so barbaric and having a lack of emotional and cultural logic. you can see why they view america as they do.

europe has some responsibility for america being so weird, because they sent their criminals here after all. thats part of my agenda yes, to make europe responsible for sending their criminals here.

 

[Australia]

^ you should see some of these yahoo message boards and internet gaming sites.

You're basing your opinions on the internet? Well, there's your problem.

there are weird white guys everywhere. you would be blind if you don't see them.

There are weird people of every race.

being anti weird white guy is being Pro American. Please change your values to reflect this. thanks.

Huh? Did you eat lead paint chips as a baby?

but honestly, i am sure if you traveled to europe, then you can see why they view america as so barbaric and having a lack of emotional and cultural logic. you can see why they view america as they do.

I know all about the cultural problems of the US. No one needs to travel to Europe to see this. You're making this all up as you go along.

europe has some responsibility for america being so weird, because they sent their criminals here after all. thats part of my agenda yes, to make europe responsible for sending their criminals here.

This idea was already debunked. Give it up. Even if it was true, it would not explain anything. Crime is not hereditary.

 

[Back to the 90s]

You're basing your opinions on the internet? Well, there's your problem.

you seem to have no trouble basing your opinions on fringe internet websites.

This idea was already debunked. Give it up. Even if it was true, it would not explain anything. Crime is not hereditary.

actually i just started. English deportation of criminals was just part of the deportation to America. Spain also deported a large amount of criminals to America.

Large-scale deportation of criminals to the American Colonies took place until the American Revolution.

Spain and France used the same method to rid themselves of criminals. Spain deported criminals to its American colonies. France sent deportees to French Guiana on the northern coast of South America and to the island of New Caledonia in the Pacific Ocean. The most notorious of the French convict colonies was Devil's Island, off the coast of Guiana. The penal colonies in South America were not abolished until World War II.

http://www.britannica.com/ebc/article-204651

here is a study outlining the hereditary nature of criminal behavior by Sir Francis Galton.

Sir Francis Galton (1822-1911) was the first scientist to study heredity and human behavior systematically. He focused on behavioral correlations within families and developed a few research techniques still in use today—twin studies, for example. Galton also arrived at some interesting conclusions, including this 1907 summary of the inheritance of criminal tendencies: The ideal criminal has marked peculiarities of character: his conscience is almost deficient, his instincts are vicious, his power of self-control is very weak, and he usually detests continuous labor. The absence of self-control is due to ungovernable temper, to passion, or to mere imbecility, and the conditions that determine the particular descriptions of crime are the character of the instincts and of the temptation. The perpetuation of the criminal class by heredity is a question difficult to grapple with on many accounts.... It is, however, easy to show that the criminal nature tends to be inherited.... The true state of the case appears to be that the criminal population receives steady accessions from those who, without having strongly marked criminal natures, do nevertheless belong to a type of humanity that is exceedingly ill suited to play a respectable part in our modern civilization, though it is well suited to flourish under half-savage conditions, being naturally both healthy and prolific. [SIZE=-1][Galton, Inquiry into Human Faculty and its Development, 2nd edition (London: J.M. Dent & Sons, Ltd., 1907).][/SIZE]

http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/publicat/judicature/article4.html

please note all my links are either major newspapers, academic journals, or the encyclopedia itself.

Criminal deportation of European criminals to America was stopped because colonists themselves protested. But by then, the damage to Native Americans was already done. Its rather sad. Europe should take more responsibility for what happened to Native Americans as a result of their criminal deportation policy.

 

[Australia]

you seem to have no trouble basing your opinions on fringe internet websites.

Heh, fringe? I have not quoted any opinions. I have quoted statistics. Unless you post something that refutes those statistics, I can only assume you accept their truthfulness.

actually i just started. English deportation of criminals was just part of the deportation to America. Spain also deported a large amount of criminals to America.

I see nothing that states they were sent to the 13 colonies. America is actually 2 continents. So stating someone is sent to America could mean Canada, Argentina, Panama, or any other nation in this hemisphere. Regardless, I've already shown that only 2% of the population had a criminal history, anyway.

http://www.britannica.com/ebc/article-204651

here is a study outlining the hereditary nature of criminal behavior by Sir Francis Galton.

Dude, you're quoting 19th century psychology. If you're going to quote ANY psychologist born before 1900, it better be Freud. Everything else from that time period is a joke. Psychology is COMPLETELY different, thanks to Freud.

http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/publicat/judicature/article4.html

please note all my links are either major newspapers, academic journals, or the encyclopedia itself.

If you want to believe kooks, no one can stop you. Environment has so much more to do with criminal behavior than DNA. That's why virtually every criminal out there either came from a broken home, was abused, or was desperately poor. I can't believe you're actually trying to argue this. I feel like I'm dealing with an evangelical Christian, here, who believes Muslims are "evil".

Criminal deportation of European criminals to America was stopped because colonists themselves protested. But by then, the damage to Native Americans was already done. Its rather sad. Europe should take more responsibility for what happened to Native Americans as a result of their criminal deportation policy.

The genocide of the native Americans had nothing to do with criminal history. It was because the colonists were brutal racists. Man, your thinking is just so far out there. Here's a link I'm sure you'll like.

http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm

Anyone who believes what you have been stating in this thread must also find the argument on this website compelling. I thought we moved past the bunk you've been posting in this thread, but apparently some people haven't entered the modern age.

 

[Back to the 90s]

^ actually i don't know why you would think i would believe that link.

people like the mayans and people in asia too knew the earth was round for thousands of years before europeans "discovered" it was round.

you should pick a better link if you want to ridicule. lolz

 

[HomeyG]

you two are both smart so dont waist your time in eachother use it on the system